Date:
04 Oct 1999
Time:
16:34:01

Comment

"2:8 So deeply do we care for you that we are determined to share with you not only the gospel of God but also our own selves, because you have become very dear to us."

Is not the best and most effective way of sharing the Gospel of God by doing our best to mirror Jesus in ourselves? The best preaching in the world will get us no where if we do not "walk the walk."

Love, Pilgrim --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Date:
14 Oct 1999
Time:
19:12:06

Comment

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Date: 19 Oct 1999
Time: 01:38:02

Comment

Well, I do not see much fodder for the mill here; however consider this; Jesus was sent partly because we needed not only the message, but an embodiment of the message; the incarnation. Now the word of God takes on human form through us; we can no longer "do ministy" based on a removed, detached relationship. We are called, like Jesus, and like Paul and Timothy, to be the message, or at least to embody it in a loving relationship with those who hear it and receive it. This is what it means to a be a minister of the gospel. I decry the people who way you cannot run a ministry based on a relational model. My friends, is there any other kind of ministry?

-Jeff McDowell-


Date: 19 Oct 1999
Time: 01:38:40

Comment

Well, I do not see much fodder for the mill here; however consider this; Jesus was sent partly because we needed not only the message, but an embodiment of the message; the incarnation. Now the word of God takes on human form through us; we can no longer "do ministy" based on a removed, detached relationship. We are called, like Jesus, and like Paul and Timothy, to be the message, or at least to embody it in a loving relationship with those who hear it and receive it. This is what it means to a be a minister of the gospel. I decry the people who say you cannot run a ministry based on a relational model. My friends, is there any other kind of ministry?

-Jeff McDowell-


Date: 19 Oct 1999
Time: 13:38:39

Comment

I believe the phrase, "so deeply do we care for you that we are determined to share with you not only the Gospel of God but also our own selves" speaks to today's Gospel passage - "Love the Lord your God.... and the second is like it: love your neighbor as yourselves." This is how we witness to our love of God and how we love our neighbor: to share "our own selves"..... an early thought.... Margaret in CT


Date: 21 Oct 1999
Time: 16:34:33

Comment

IN Willimon's Pulpit Resource he talks about a neurosurgeon whom he met. He told him how much he admired his work and the neuro surgeon replied that his is a work with much failure. So many cases do not have a good outcome and you are constantly lookng at that and explaining to families the devastating aftermath of the surgery, Willimon said that suddenly he felt a kinship with that man. So many times in ministry we think we are doing the best we can only to be scarred like Paul by detractors in our congregations or towns. So maybe we need to realize that if we truly have been faithful to our calling to "deeply care" then the failures won't matter because there will be folks our there profoundly touched by those of us who attempt to look after them like a mother looking after her children. We are not in this for accolades...we are in this to " hold your people in my heart" as the hymn Here I AM Lord so beautifully says. Not only that, but there will be people in your congregations who will also be doing the same thing you model and so others will be touched by their loving , gentle demeanor. These are the "laity angels" !! What a glorious calling we have! However, it doesn't hurt to let the congregation know that it is indeed a task that takes it's toll ESPECIALLY without their joining with you to love the masses, bind up the wounds, forgive the insensitive and as the old spiritual says..."give them Jesus"!! Blessings...preacher woman in VT.


Date: 21 Oct 1999
Time: 21:52:08

Comment

For what it is worth, here's how I am planning to use this on Sunday.

I see three primary points here that are worth working on. (Oh no, the world-famous 3-point sermon!)

It can be used as a reminder of our obligations, responsiblites, mission imparatives, etc. in ministry. (Not necessarily ordained, but I will be speaking to the role every Christian has as a minister.)

1. We are to have the courage to preach and live the Gospel.

2. Our motives must always be God focused. (This is particularly ture when we remember that people are not "potential church members" but precious members of God's family already. How often are people put off because the church was more interested in securing their membership participation than lovingly introdcuing them to a meaningful relationship in Christ?

3. This text describes the character of our relationship with non-believers. Nurturing, loving, etc.

The overall focus of Sunday's sermon from this text is to motovate the congregation to get out and be apostles of Christ in the world of non-believers and the uncertain believers.

DWR


Date: 22 Oct 1999
Time: 13:51:47

Comment

This text reminds me of my baptism. I was raised in a church. Raised by christian parents, and God parents. I am the product of their love filled witness and teaching. Sometimes we forget those who have witnessed to us in a spirit of patient gentleness. I don't like to knock big name evagelists, but I think they are over rated. Maybe they play a role, in our conversion and maturing in faith, but so also to those who raise us and witness to us at home and in Sunday school. I think it takes a multitude of witnesses to make a Christian and that process begins the minute we are born. Sliver tongued preachers help us, but they can never take the place of Godly parents and God parents. RLFGary